In Episode 109 of the Game Under Podcast, Tom and Phil do not talk about their eager anticipation of the death of triple a development or The Last Guardian (maybe they still will?) due to technical difficulties, but do talk about Tetris 99, Jurassic Bosch, Spielberg, and people who started playing games when Bioshock Infinite was released.
You can listen to such outscourings here.
Rare shot of Phil editing the podcast.